trueguy
12-11 01:43 AM
In a testimony to the House Judiciary Committee back in Apr/May 08, the USCIS clearly stated that it had changed its policy regarding which applications would be adjudicated first.
As I remember, USCIS stated that it was now following a policy where cases that had a possibility of getting a visa number in the near future were adjudicated first. It said that this change in policy was made in order to reduce waste of immigrant visas.
The problem with this approach is that:
- It is not FIFO
- EB2-I/C and EB3 not only continue to remain retrogressed, but retrogression worsens.
Here is how:
Since EB2-I/EB3-I categories are already retrogressed, the I-485 applications in this category will be shelved until it appears that a visa number may become available in the foreseeable future.
So, USCIS puts most of these cases in cold storage while it adjudicates and approves the EB2ROW applications as it receives them on a continuous basis.
When time comes to roll over excess EB2 ROW numbers, two things happen:
- Already substantial use of EB2ROW numbers make few numbers available for roll over
- Limited adjudication of Eb2-I/C and EB3 cases make a very small pool of pre-adjudicated applications. USCIS requests DOS to move dates so that it has access to a larger pool for cherry picking.
The result is that VB dates move forward by leaps and bounds and cases are approved haphazardly with PDs all over the map. When the excess numbers are used up, the dates for EB2-I/C and EB3 retrogress back to previous cutoff dates because there are still a lot of old cases that have not even been brought out of cold storage. The EB2ROW dates are again current because USCIS has adjudicated and approved EB2ROW cases throughout the year- so no backlog there.
If USCIS followed FIFO, then the following would happen:
- USCIS would be adjudicating old EB2I/C and EB3 cases right now, and not the recently received EB2ROW cases.
- This would reduce the number of pre-adjudicated EB2ROW cases and hence lower the demand in the EB2ROW category.
- When time would come to roll over numbers not used by EB2ROW:
- A large pool number of excess visas would be available
- A large pool of pre-adjudicated EB2-I/C and EB3 cases with old PDs would be available that could be readily assigned visa numbers.
As a result, old cases would be assigned visa numbers and backlog would be reduced.
Unfortunately, USCIS has confused its process of adjudicating cases (which is FIFO) with its effort to enforce the country quota. The country limits come into picture only when cases ready for adjudication are to be assigned visa numbers. The process of adjudication should still be FIFO, and not determined by the country quota.
Very good points. I can't agree with you any more.
The question is how do we raise it as an issue so USCIS follow FIFO.
As I remember, USCIS stated that it was now following a policy where cases that had a possibility of getting a visa number in the near future were adjudicated first. It said that this change in policy was made in order to reduce waste of immigrant visas.
The problem with this approach is that:
- It is not FIFO
- EB2-I/C and EB3 not only continue to remain retrogressed, but retrogression worsens.
Here is how:
Since EB2-I/EB3-I categories are already retrogressed, the I-485 applications in this category will be shelved until it appears that a visa number may become available in the foreseeable future.
So, USCIS puts most of these cases in cold storage while it adjudicates and approves the EB2ROW applications as it receives them on a continuous basis.
When time comes to roll over excess EB2 ROW numbers, two things happen:
- Already substantial use of EB2ROW numbers make few numbers available for roll over
- Limited adjudication of Eb2-I/C and EB3 cases make a very small pool of pre-adjudicated applications. USCIS requests DOS to move dates so that it has access to a larger pool for cherry picking.
The result is that VB dates move forward by leaps and bounds and cases are approved haphazardly with PDs all over the map. When the excess numbers are used up, the dates for EB2-I/C and EB3 retrogress back to previous cutoff dates because there are still a lot of old cases that have not even been brought out of cold storage. The EB2ROW dates are again current because USCIS has adjudicated and approved EB2ROW cases throughout the year- so no backlog there.
If USCIS followed FIFO, then the following would happen:
- USCIS would be adjudicating old EB2I/C and EB3 cases right now, and not the recently received EB2ROW cases.
- This would reduce the number of pre-adjudicated EB2ROW cases and hence lower the demand in the EB2ROW category.
- When time would come to roll over numbers not used by EB2ROW:
- A large pool number of excess visas would be available
- A large pool of pre-adjudicated EB2-I/C and EB3 cases with old PDs would be available that could be readily assigned visa numbers.
As a result, old cases would be assigned visa numbers and backlog would be reduced.
Unfortunately, USCIS has confused its process of adjudicating cases (which is FIFO) with its effort to enforce the country quota. The country limits come into picture only when cases ready for adjudication are to be assigned visa numbers. The process of adjudication should still be FIFO, and not determined by the country quota.
Very good points. I can't agree with you any more.
The question is how do we raise it as an issue so USCIS follow FIFO.
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it is ok
01-08 11:20 AM
Hi:
While sending passport for Renewal, do I have to attach I-94, too alongwith Old Passport, or should I remove it..I am sending it by Certified Copy..
Thanks,
While sending passport for Renewal, do I have to attach I-94, too alongwith Old Passport, or should I remove it..I am sending it by Certified Copy..
Thanks,
leoindiano
07-09 05:26 PM
What is strange ?? He used PP in June when it was still available. USCIS suspended PP only for new cases to process what they already had.
I can't wait to get the chance to upgrade mine .... not that I will do anything with it for a while (other than H1B extension) but is nice to have the approval in your pocket.
:rolleyes:
Dude, please read completely. He said there was no update on USCIS case status check online but he got approval notice. Isnt that strange?
I can't wait to get the chance to upgrade mine .... not that I will do anything with it for a while (other than H1B extension) but is nice to have the approval in your pocket.
:rolleyes:
Dude, please read completely. He said there was no update on USCIS case status check online but he got approval notice. Isnt that strange?
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radhagd
05-15 12:14 PM
Thanks for your reply.
My understanding is there can be only one AOS at any time.
- So if the AOS is applied based on the EB3 140, can another AOS be filed based on EB2?
- If a AOS has been applied based on EB3, can it be "upgraded" to EB2 ??
Thanks.
Yes you can file more than one AOS simultaneously and withdraw other one once I485 is approved.
My understanding is there can be only one AOS at any time.
- So if the AOS is applied based on the EB3 140, can another AOS be filed based on EB2?
- If a AOS has been applied based on EB3, can it be "upgraded" to EB2 ??
Thanks.
Yes you can file more than one AOS simultaneously and withdraw other one once I485 is approved.
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pappu
01-20 11:34 PM
most uni's have a indian student association, the contact is usually found on the website, that would the best way to find them, also orkut has alot of desi student in us communities
Would you be interested in contacting all such associations and orkut communities around the country? It will be a big help.
Would you be interested in contacting all such associations and orkut communities around the country? It will be a big help.
kaizersoze
03-21 12:30 PM
I just posted this on another thread. I'lls et up a conf call, hopefully this weekend. We need to build some momentum and meet as many lawmakers as possible.
PS: This post pertains to seattle area congressmen. I'll post a contact list of lawmakers in the northwest region. I noticed that someone from portland als posted here.
Folks,
As part of the WA state chapter, we have started meeting lawmakers. We met one congressman last week, are meeting one this friday and another next week and more as appointments get scheduled. I just want to share at this point that the initial reaction was very positive. They are very approachable, and very willing to listen. They understood the pain we are going through and noted the suggestions we made and the provisions that we want them to support.
I want to point out that although they were aware of the ongoing debate on immigration and the difference between H1B issues and GC issues, they dont fully understand the GC process and how long and how much we suffer in the process. Once they realize this, they look at it differently. The only way they will know is if we go and talk to them !!
I request and urge everyone to take 2 mins out of their busy schedules and just call their congressmen/senators. Help the core team out. They cannot do everything themselves. IV has all the material ready on the website. All you have to do is spend 30 mins talking to the representatives about it. I am speaking from personal experience. IT GOES A LONG WAY !!
Once we have met a couple more lawmakers, I'll put a detailed post about the takeaways.
PS: This post pertains to seattle area congressmen. I'll post a contact list of lawmakers in the northwest region. I noticed that someone from portland als posted here.
Folks,
As part of the WA state chapter, we have started meeting lawmakers. We met one congressman last week, are meeting one this friday and another next week and more as appointments get scheduled. I just want to share at this point that the initial reaction was very positive. They are very approachable, and very willing to listen. They understood the pain we are going through and noted the suggestions we made and the provisions that we want them to support.
I want to point out that although they were aware of the ongoing debate on immigration and the difference between H1B issues and GC issues, they dont fully understand the GC process and how long and how much we suffer in the process. Once they realize this, they look at it differently. The only way they will know is if we go and talk to them !!
I request and urge everyone to take 2 mins out of their busy schedules and just call their congressmen/senators. Help the core team out. They cannot do everything themselves. IV has all the material ready on the website. All you have to do is spend 30 mins talking to the representatives about it. I am speaking from personal experience. IT GOES A LONG WAY !!
Once we have met a couple more lawmakers, I'll put a detailed post about the takeaways.
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Ramba
04-13 06:13 PM
Hello All,
I came across this site while researching for *urgent* solutions or options that my friend needs to pursue or has.
These are my friend's details --
EB3 -- India.
I140 approved in July 2007.
485 filed in July 2007.
MS in Engg from USA.
MBA in Finance from top ten school in USA.
Has applied for couple of patents in tech field.
Author of few papers in tech field.
My friend worked for his green card petitioning employer for 7 years in a technical position on H1 visa. He had to leave this job under some unfavorable circumstances around a month back. He has now taken a job as Marketing Manager for a big firm and is using his EAD. Two weeks back he has received an RFE on his 485 application. (Very curious and bad timing indeed too). This RFE needs a Employment Verification Letter. The current position that my friend works as does not match the position description on his labor petition. The RFE reply needs to be sent in within next 2 weeks.
What are his options to reply to the RFE? One of the lawyers that was consulted said that since Green Card is for a future position, he needs to get a legit letter from a future employer that the employer is willing to hire my friend after he gets his green card.
Also suggested were EB2-NIW and self-employment options.
What would you suggest -- best course of action? Would you know anybody who has gone through a similar situation. Any fallback options that my friend needs to evaluate?
I really appreciate all your replies. Pl treat this as very urgent.
Thanks.
Please post the occupation classification and the Onet code for the initial job for which GC applied. Also post the job descritipn/duties of the job; if known. Also post the currnt job dutiers and title. I can tro some lights.
I came across this site while researching for *urgent* solutions or options that my friend needs to pursue or has.
These are my friend's details --
EB3 -- India.
I140 approved in July 2007.
485 filed in July 2007.
MS in Engg from USA.
MBA in Finance from top ten school in USA.
Has applied for couple of patents in tech field.
Author of few papers in tech field.
My friend worked for his green card petitioning employer for 7 years in a technical position on H1 visa. He had to leave this job under some unfavorable circumstances around a month back. He has now taken a job as Marketing Manager for a big firm and is using his EAD. Two weeks back he has received an RFE on his 485 application. (Very curious and bad timing indeed too). This RFE needs a Employment Verification Letter. The current position that my friend works as does not match the position description on his labor petition. The RFE reply needs to be sent in within next 2 weeks.
What are his options to reply to the RFE? One of the lawyers that was consulted said that since Green Card is for a future position, he needs to get a legit letter from a future employer that the employer is willing to hire my friend after he gets his green card.
Also suggested were EB2-NIW and self-employment options.
What would you suggest -- best course of action? Would you know anybody who has gone through a similar situation. Any fallback options that my friend needs to evaluate?
I really appreciate all your replies. Pl treat this as very urgent.
Thanks.
Please post the occupation classification and the Onet code for the initial job for which GC applied. Also post the job descritipn/duties of the job; if known. Also post the currnt job dutiers and title. I can tro some lights.
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rajs
04-04 03:43 PM
my case is pending from 2004
visa numbers for PD are current but still no action on my case
i dint even get a reply for the enquire i made in Jan 2009
so for me its like a showoff story by USCIS :confused:
visa numbers for PD are current but still no action on my case
i dint even get a reply for the enquire i made in Jan 2009
so for me its like a showoff story by USCIS :confused:
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gc_check
07-12 05:51 AM
Our lawyer Company has decided to file the AOS application in July
I work for a big 5 Software company & our lawyer Littler Global had taken a stand on July that they will not file our AOS application after the June VB was revoked/amended on July 2nd.
Surprisingly , today we have received a mail from them that that keeping in view our best interest they have decided to file our AOS case in July regardless of CIS receipting them.
Wanted to share this information as it may be helpful for you folks too ...
Vivek
Looks like most of the Attorney's who told, they will not file after the July 2nd revision of VB, are now planning to file anyway. Think the decission could have influenced after the Tuesday's Aila Conf. Call. My Attorney finally gave updates that they would have all the 485's completed and ready to go while monitoring the situation and action of AILA/USCIS and will file if is of the best interest to the applicant. Also, the reason they are holding back now is also, what if, USCIS neither receipts nor rejects the applications and hold them and argue they cannot take an action as the cases are subject to litigation.... then it could be even worse.... Any thoughts on this...Folks share your communication with your attorney's if any details worth sharing.
I work for a big 5 Software company & our lawyer Littler Global had taken a stand on July that they will not file our AOS application after the June VB was revoked/amended on July 2nd.
Surprisingly , today we have received a mail from them that that keeping in view our best interest they have decided to file our AOS case in July regardless of CIS receipting them.
Wanted to share this information as it may be helpful for you folks too ...
Vivek
Looks like most of the Attorney's who told, they will not file after the July 2nd revision of VB, are now planning to file anyway. Think the decission could have influenced after the Tuesday's Aila Conf. Call. My Attorney finally gave updates that they would have all the 485's completed and ready to go while monitoring the situation and action of AILA/USCIS and will file if is of the best interest to the applicant. Also, the reason they are holding back now is also, what if, USCIS neither receipts nor rejects the applications and hold them and argue they cannot take an action as the cases are subject to litigation.... then it could be even worse.... Any thoughts on this...Folks share your communication with your attorney's if any details worth sharing.
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thandan
03-17 11:33 AM
I am not sure I agree with you on that EAD will go invalid if the primary applicant stops working fulltime. This is because the greencard application and everything associated with it is for a FUTURE job offer.
What I am trying to see is the analysis of this situation from the point of view of an attorney. It would be great if one of the attorneys can chime in here!
Couple of more points in case it wasn't clear in my original post
1) I am the primary applicant for this greencard application.
2) The option of going to MBA after I get the greencard will not work. For one, it will take me (eb3 india) years to get it, at which point going for an MBA will be too late. Also I got this opportunity to attend a top-3 MBA after so much hardwork and I do not want that to go to waste.
What I am trying to see is the analysis of this situation from the point of view of an attorney. It would be great if one of the attorneys can chime in here!
Couple of more points in case it wasn't clear in my original post
1) I am the primary applicant for this greencard application.
2) The option of going to MBA after I get the greencard will not work. For one, it will take me (eb3 india) years to get it, at which point going for an MBA will be too late. Also I got this opportunity to attend a top-3 MBA after so much hardwork and I do not want that to go to waste.
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Prashant
05-28 06:26 PM
Hello,
I have recently taken an appoinment at chennai consulate for nov.. I had been looking into these dates for some time .. The website was showing october dates 2 weeks ago and once in a whle sept dates .. but recently they moved on to nov dates .. I guess oct dates might be full .. but could open up now and then as people withdraw and reschedule appoinments .. as of now i guess nov dates are available for appoinment
I have recently taken an appoinment at chennai consulate for nov.. I had been looking into these dates for some time .. The website was showing october dates 2 weeks ago and once in a whle sept dates .. but recently they moved on to nov dates .. I guess oct dates might be full .. but could open up now and then as people withdraw and reschedule appoinments .. as of now i guess nov dates are available for appoinment
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kevinkris
07-21 06:11 PM
Open this thread in case if you get it..
Hi All,
My skin test was positive, where as my x-ray was normal.Incase I get an RFE , Can I go to my PCP or need to go only to local health dept.
Can some body guide me
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$100-so far
Hi All,
My skin test was positive, where as my x-ray was normal.Incase I get an RFE , Can I go to my PCP or need to go only to local health dept.
Can some body guide me
-Srarao
$100-so far
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viva
01-31 11:13 PM
he is extremely knowledgable person in terms of immigration, he has 5000+ posts on immigration forums and has helped countless people with immigration issues. His name seems to be Nadeem and is a Canadian immigrant and is a CPA and his EB3 petition is in retrogression.
In recent times he started stereotyping immigrants and make every immigrant feel that they are breaking laws in some way or the other and became unpopular.
He was not in support of IV and was under a strong feeling that a bunch of immigrants are wasting precious time and money. But now he seems to change his stance and has stepped into IV and has become a member. He is very helpful in terms of his skills and willingness to share his knowledge and help people.
He does audit to a lot of h1b dependent employers and has direct influence and can strongly recommend them to contribute for this cause. Most of his analysis about patterns of visa distribution comee out as expected but in recent times there were instances where his analysis went wrong too.
Overall he is definitely of great help if he wishes to dedicate some time of his to this cause and help in all ways possible.
if he was a cfo or is a cfo, as he claims on previous posts, why is he filinf under eb-3? why can't he file under eb-2 or eb-1? isn't eb-1 for multinational executives?
most cfos would be toiling inside their companies, rather than spending time on forums. may be, he is just getting to act out his dream of being a cfo on the forums. may be, he thinks he can get away with claiming to be anything. after all, who is going to check? i could say i am the ceo of citibank or intel or microsoft. who is going to check on that? i can post a link to the sec website where my name will be shown as steve balmer.
people can claim to be a lot of things in this world..just don't believe everything they say without proof....
if i said that i am a talking elephant, would you believe me? probably, no. so, why would u believe that united nations is what he says he is?
In recent times he started stereotyping immigrants and make every immigrant feel that they are breaking laws in some way or the other and became unpopular.
He was not in support of IV and was under a strong feeling that a bunch of immigrants are wasting precious time and money. But now he seems to change his stance and has stepped into IV and has become a member. He is very helpful in terms of his skills and willingness to share his knowledge and help people.
He does audit to a lot of h1b dependent employers and has direct influence and can strongly recommend them to contribute for this cause. Most of his analysis about patterns of visa distribution comee out as expected but in recent times there were instances where his analysis went wrong too.
Overall he is definitely of great help if he wishes to dedicate some time of his to this cause and help in all ways possible.
if he was a cfo or is a cfo, as he claims on previous posts, why is he filinf under eb-3? why can't he file under eb-2 or eb-1? isn't eb-1 for multinational executives?
most cfos would be toiling inside their companies, rather than spending time on forums. may be, he is just getting to act out his dream of being a cfo on the forums. may be, he thinks he can get away with claiming to be anything. after all, who is going to check? i could say i am the ceo of citibank or intel or microsoft. who is going to check on that? i can post a link to the sec website where my name will be shown as steve balmer.
people can claim to be a lot of things in this world..just don't believe everything they say without proof....
if i said that i am a talking elephant, would you believe me? probably, no. so, why would u believe that united nations is what he says he is?
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trump_gc
03-26 01:32 PM
May be its a stupid question? But let me ask anyway:-
Does STEM considers BS + 5 yrs as Advanced degree? I have 140 EB2 approved with BS +9 years of experince, even though EB2 is for advanced degree but I think I may not qualify for STEM since I do not have master,,is this true?
Does STEM considers BS + 5 yrs as Advanced degree? I have 140 EB2 approved with BS +9 years of experince, even though EB2 is for advanced degree but I think I may not qualify for STEM since I do not have master,,is this true?
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veni001
02-03 03:53 PM
thank you veni, that is very informative and solid reference.
looks like under 'advanced degree' category, just having a US Masters or foreign equivalent (4+2) is enough. lot of people are under the impression, its MS+3yrs. but the description in USCIS link states just an advanced degree (higher than baccalaureate) is enough. am i reading this right?
BS+5years is equivalent to having an Advanced degree.
But, I think its BS+5yrs, not BS Equivalent + 5 yrs.
That's correct.
Good luck!
looks like under 'advanced degree' category, just having a US Masters or foreign equivalent (4+2) is enough. lot of people are under the impression, its MS+3yrs. but the description in USCIS link states just an advanced degree (higher than baccalaureate) is enough. am i reading this right?
BS+5years is equivalent to having an Advanced degree.
But, I think its BS+5yrs, not BS Equivalent + 5 yrs.
That's correct.
Good luck!
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fide_champ
08-04 07:05 PM
Hi , Thanks again for the reply.
Related to Point 3 ,reason why im trying to this is to avoid all of us leaving country due to non approval of my COS, I dont have luxury to stay on L1 beyond next 2 months..
well, i realistically see two options here:
1. Get your family here ASAP and apply COS for all. If your COS gets approved, most likely theirs will get approved as well. You can do yours in premium and theirs by regular. As long as they get the receipt within 2 months, they'll be in status.
2. You can apply COS for yourself in premium and ask your family to stamp H4. If they get stuck in 221g, then it could be months before they get here. That's the downside.
Your L1 visa stays if your COS gets rejected, so you don't have to leave immediately.
Related to Point 3 ,reason why im trying to this is to avoid all of us leaving country due to non approval of my COS, I dont have luxury to stay on L1 beyond next 2 months..
well, i realistically see two options here:
1. Get your family here ASAP and apply COS for all. If your COS gets approved, most likely theirs will get approved as well. You can do yours in premium and theirs by regular. As long as they get the receipt within 2 months, they'll be in status.
2. You can apply COS for yourself in premium and ask your family to stamp H4. If they get stuck in 221g, then it could be months before they get here. That's the downside.
Your L1 visa stays if your COS gets rejected, so you don't have to leave immediately.
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kumar1
09-22 11:11 AM
You get this kind of mental state only after spending 8-9 years here! Look at people with PD of 2007....trying to sue USCIS for interfile! It took 7 years for my wife to get EAD. Some of the H4s got EAD in less than 6 months. Am I going to sue USCIS? Hell No!
Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness!
Dude, Your PD is in early 2001 and you are so calm and composed?. I am amazed with your “current state of mind”. I hope you get your GC soon.
Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness!
Dude, Your PD is in early 2001 and you are so calm and composed?. I am amazed with your “current state of mind”. I hope you get your GC soon.
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nixstor
08-23 11:01 AM
pani_6,
While I am with you on the outburst, I want to underscore that GC is not a panacea for all problems in life. C mon, There is more to life than GC. Yes, your Masters Degree will pay you in the long run. No need to worry about it. Keep the GC thing on the back burner and see what you can do meanwhile (PMP,GMAT etc..)
While I am with you on the outburst, I want to underscore that GC is not a panacea for all problems in life. C mon, There is more to life than GC. Yes, your Masters Degree will pay you in the long run. No need to worry about it. Keep the GC thing on the back burner and see what you can do meanwhile (PMP,GMAT etc..)
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skagitswimmer
June 7th, 2005, 08:00 AM
Thanks again. What threw me was that even though the detail was blown there was lots of colour. It is not like when it gets blown to white by direct sunlight.
The shot we are all talking about was originally in RAW, by the way.
This is the time in a while that I have identified a problem that wouldn't be solved with a large expenditure of cash
The shot we are all talking about was originally in RAW, by the way.
This is the time in a while that I have identified a problem that wouldn't be solved with a large expenditure of cash