gbof
09-09 09:13 PM
Oct09 VB is awafully disgusting for my EB3 friends. Call of the day -- try out all possible options to improve your chances (EB2, if after so many years you qualify) and INTENSE lobby efforts for recapture by roping in all friendly employers and congressmen. Running away will not improve the lot.......
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unitednations
08-25 03:39 AM
I am not sure what the writer is trying to say.
In my field we try to hire the best applicant for the job whether American, European or Asian or from elsewhere does not matter. Otherwise you get a bunch that do not know how to convert units and crash things ... let me not name them.
Transfers are for people to change jobs. I have done it. My employer(s) do(did) it all the time.
What do you propose? Keep waiting for green cards 10-15yrs without knowing if it will be approved in the end.
H1B is for labor shortage. If there is an abuse then the govt needs to crack down. If the laws come short, then better laws can be crafted.
these are very complex issues, where a lot of people try to trivialize or minimize. I haven't visited the forums in a while but doesn't look like much has changed. Division betwen IT and non IT. Dvision between people working at "full time positions". division between eb2 and eb3; country quota, etc.
Look what department of labor is now doing with Fragomen clients. Staffing companies generally do not use fragomen; they are the biggest of big companie. Fragomen made a lot of oise regarding immigration. In this country you make noise people look at what you are doing and figure out a way to make you shut up. Now; DOL has figured it out. they are sending second audit requests and people are scrambling trying to figure out wha to do. Do you not think that these companies are going to pause in filing labors for people going forward due to the additional hassle and the bad publicity if their labors do get denied?
In my field we try to hire the best applicant for the job whether American, European or Asian or from elsewhere does not matter. Otherwise you get a bunch that do not know how to convert units and crash things ... let me not name them.
Transfers are for people to change jobs. I have done it. My employer(s) do(did) it all the time.
What do you propose? Keep waiting for green cards 10-15yrs without knowing if it will be approved in the end.
H1B is for labor shortage. If there is an abuse then the govt needs to crack down. If the laws come short, then better laws can be crafted.
these are very complex issues, where a lot of people try to trivialize or minimize. I haven't visited the forums in a while but doesn't look like much has changed. Division betwen IT and non IT. Dvision between people working at "full time positions". division between eb2 and eb3; country quota, etc.
Look what department of labor is now doing with Fragomen clients. Staffing companies generally do not use fragomen; they are the biggest of big companie. Fragomen made a lot of oise regarding immigration. In this country you make noise people look at what you are doing and figure out a way to make you shut up. Now; DOL has figured it out. they are sending second audit requests and people are scrambling trying to figure out wha to do. Do you not think that these companies are going to pause in filing labors for people going forward due to the additional hassle and the bad publicity if their labors do get denied?
BharatPremi
11-01 05:44 PM
:D:Di work for big company...and i have paystubs...
in essense...what you are saying is that if one has paystubs that one can change after the 180 day period even if 140 is not approved...
i am beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel...:D
in essense...what you are saying is that if one has paystubs that one can change after the 180 day period even if 140 is not approved...
i am beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel...:D
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srini1976
07-03 07:44 PM
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hindu_king
03-06 04:38 PM
You are seeing it from a complete 180 degrees than I see it. It's not us who's discriminating, it is the laws which are discriminating. I am asking them to treat us all equal, I entered the country on an H1B which was an employement based application it did not hav any country quota, then why should green cards for EB have country quota. Why should a person from India wait for 10 year and a person from Romania get it in 1 year....I think your ROW friends shold understand our position.
We are not asking for discriminating ROW. All we are asking is to end discriminating Indians.
We are not asking for discriminating ROW. All we are asking is to end discriminating Indians.
sanjay
02-10 02:42 PM
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed. (Cheque has been posted)
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Comeon folks, we can do it.
So far...29 contributions only.....
GCCovet
Hi GCCovet,
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed.
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Details:
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Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3LK7417540480844L)
Total:$25.00 USD
Date:Feb. 10, 2009
Time:11:23:38 PST
Status:Completed
Subject:Immigration Voice
Method: PayPal
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Comeon folks, we can do it.
So far...29 contributions only.....
GCCovet
Hi GCCovet,
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed.
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Details:
--------
Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3LK7417540480844L)
Total:$25.00 USD
Date:Feb. 10, 2009
Time:11:23:38 PST
Status:Completed
Subject:Immigration Voice
Method: PayPal
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mps
08-26 11:35 AM
I know one of my friend, his H1 extension was denied through a consulting company (basically Bodyshopper). Reason given was - "consulting not allowed on H1".
Lucky him, client hired him by sponsoring his H1 and this time it was approved.
Looks like USCIS is going after Desi Bodyshoppers (which I believe is long due).
Some desi bodyshop owner gave me red for sharing this.
Well, I just hope your pawn-shop goes down soon, so that you learn to earn your own bread instead of being a parasite !
Lucky him, client hired him by sponsoring his H1 and this time it was approved.
Looks like USCIS is going after Desi Bodyshoppers (which I believe is long due).
Some desi bodyshop owner gave me red for sharing this.
Well, I just hope your pawn-shop goes down soon, so that you learn to earn your own bread instead of being a parasite !
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gc28262
08-24 10:33 PM
Here are some of the red dot comments I recieved for my early posts. Not that I care about red dots.
<quote>
no. i was hired because i was good. you were hired because you were willing to work as a slave for 40k.
BAN desi consultants, hoarding H1B's from deserving people, BAN everyone who supports them
</quote>
To the poster of this message,
This country is not for incompetent people who fear desi-consultants.
<quote>
no. i was hired because i was good. you were hired because you were willing to work as a slave for 40k.
BAN desi consultants, hoarding H1B's from deserving people, BAN everyone who supports them
</quote>
To the poster of this message,
This country is not for incompetent people who fear desi-consultants.
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KiranKashi
02-06 09:48 AM
Contributed $50.
Transaction ID for this payment is: 9HC60443VA201913V.
Thanks GoodIntentions, guru76, Naitik for your contributions.
Members please let friends and colleagues know about the event and contribute within their means, for their own cause.
Total Contribution: $1100.00
Amount to be raised: $48,900.00
Transaction ID for this payment is: 9HC60443VA201913V.
Thanks GoodIntentions, guru76, Naitik for your contributions.
Members please let friends and colleagues know about the event and contribute within their means, for their own cause.
Total Contribution: $1100.00
Amount to be raised: $48,900.00
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english_august
07-09 01:01 PM
I ve sent the pdf to my local newspapers. She is interested in doing the story.
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Feel free to call/talk to her.
Pls call & talk to her : kcollins@newsobserver.com
Feel free to call/talk to her.
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sankap
07-10 04:58 PM
@chanduv23:
Folks, here is what I am able to gather by self employment
(1) One can be self employed
(2) 1099 or w2 - kinda tricky - most people I talked to do w2 and any profits they get after they take their salary are bonuses
Self-employment is possible only on 1099. If you're on W2, you're *not* self-employed. Pls see IRS guidelines (links above)
(3) The job has to be legitimate - in the same or similar category - you must be doing duties that are similar in nature to your 140 petition
(4) What is meant by legitimate is - you must simply not be doing "nothing" - there must be income and you must be doing your duties.
That's *your* interpretation of "legitimate." If you're self-employed and looking for contracts, your business is "legitimate." Since there's no clear definition of that from USCIS, DOl, IRS, we can *assume* your self-employment in similar occupation is legitimate. If you've a business, you can't guarantee biweekly/monthly cash flow--again, no guidelines from USCIS on that.
Correct me if I am wrong
Folks, here is what I am able to gather by self employment
(1) One can be self employed
(2) 1099 or w2 - kinda tricky - most people I talked to do w2 and any profits they get after they take their salary are bonuses
Self-employment is possible only on 1099. If you're on W2, you're *not* self-employed. Pls see IRS guidelines (links above)
(3) The job has to be legitimate - in the same or similar category - you must be doing duties that are similar in nature to your 140 petition
(4) What is meant by legitimate is - you must simply not be doing "nothing" - there must be income and you must be doing your duties.
That's *your* interpretation of "legitimate." If you're self-employed and looking for contracts, your business is "legitimate." Since there's no clear definition of that from USCIS, DOl, IRS, we can *assume* your self-employment in similar occupation is legitimate. If you've a business, you can't guarantee biweekly/monthly cash flow--again, no guidelines from USCIS on that.
Correct me if I am wrong
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paraphrase
10-08 11:05 PM
I do not understand why people spend their energy in coming up with some lame ideas. Just because you suffer does not mean that your fellows have to suffer, what is the point of being a sane individual with that kind of thought process.
There are people who come here on all kinds of visas F1, H1, L1 and like this country and stay back and need a green card for convenience. Students who came here want priority over people who came on H1B. It makes sense from their point of view.
Similarly people on H1B who got stuck in several stages and had to change the company have their own point of view.
How bout having a lame rule saying that GC for people with I.Q of 140 and above?
(or)
How bout having a lame rule like if you have a family you will be penalized by putting you at the end of the line for GC?
The list can go endless..
Worry less about who is cutting the line and getting ahead and please concentrate and put your energy and come up with good ideas and showing what we are really capable of..
There are people who come here on all kinds of visas F1, H1, L1 and like this country and stay back and need a green card for convenience. Students who came here want priority over people who came on H1B. It makes sense from their point of view.
Similarly people on H1B who got stuck in several stages and had to change the company have their own point of view.
How bout having a lame rule saying that GC for people with I.Q of 140 and above?
(or)
How bout having a lame rule like if you have a family you will be penalized by putting you at the end of the line for GC?
The list can go endless..
Worry less about who is cutting the line and getting ahead and please concentrate and put your energy and come up with good ideas and showing what we are really capable of..
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 07:25 PM
That observation on the SKULL bill and masters degrees was raised by few concious and noble members of this forum before.
Do you realize that in certain schools I know very well here, they don't even require you to take TOEFL or GRE/GMAT for grad school. Believe me, there are thousands of people in the world with $20K who would line up for such "graduate" schools and move here permanently. I am saying, any lobbying effort should be directed to tone down such bills, they are simply not very realistic at this point.
If skill bill is passed in the same form as it is Americans will be alarmed seeing the inflow based on exemption of US based Master degree and STEM. Not only to Americans it is threat for current H1s and green card holders as well. The problem is those who have money in India can get admission in USA MS degree in any non standard college(I do not think INS can evaluate whether it is standard or not). So atleast 4 times of current MS students will come and they will get h1(I think Ms people has exemption in quota) thro Desi consultants by paying Money and get green card immeditely. This will defeat the purpose of skill bill itself. And also India so many people are doing MSC they can get gc easily here(As we know Indians or anyone will use loopholes to come here and get gc). If immigration is increased so much then it will impact all kinds of exsisting people. I think there should be control in number of h1s and also green cards. I am clear that both H1 and green card numbers should be increased but blanket exemption should not be given any category especially for H1. There were a situation on 2000 and 2001 lot of people returned India because of too much supply and Americans were angry with immigrants at that time especially H1 because they were laid off.
So basically increase of immigration should be based on supply and demand . The purpose of Labour certification is to verify whether any american is rejected for that job. But that is now just formal and real test is not done(it is not possible to do it. If they do it it will take years to clear). I think if they double number of gcs the retrogession issue will be resolved for atleast another 5 years
Do you realize that in certain schools I know very well here, they don't even require you to take TOEFL or GRE/GMAT for grad school. Believe me, there are thousands of people in the world with $20K who would line up for such "graduate" schools and move here permanently. I am saying, any lobbying effort should be directed to tone down such bills, they are simply not very realistic at this point.
If skill bill is passed in the same form as it is Americans will be alarmed seeing the inflow based on exemption of US based Master degree and STEM. Not only to Americans it is threat for current H1s and green card holders as well. The problem is those who have money in India can get admission in USA MS degree in any non standard college(I do not think INS can evaluate whether it is standard or not). So atleast 4 times of current MS students will come and they will get h1(I think Ms people has exemption in quota) thro Desi consultants by paying Money and get green card immeditely. This will defeat the purpose of skill bill itself. And also India so many people are doing MSC they can get gc easily here(As we know Indians or anyone will use loopholes to come here and get gc). If immigration is increased so much then it will impact all kinds of exsisting people. I think there should be control in number of h1s and also green cards. I am clear that both H1 and green card numbers should be increased but blanket exemption should not be given any category especially for H1. There were a situation on 2000 and 2001 lot of people returned India because of too much supply and Americans were angry with immigrants at that time especially H1 because they were laid off.
So basically increase of immigration should be based on supply and demand . The purpose of Labour certification is to verify whether any american is rejected for that job. But that is now just formal and real test is not done(it is not possible to do it. If they do it it will take years to clear). I think if they double number of gcs the retrogession issue will be resolved for atleast another 5 years
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ThinkTwice
07-11 04:46 PM
So that we have some information to distribute?
I have put the below together ..
------------------------=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=================================================
THE WHAT:
Employment Based Skilled Immigrants have to wait for 7 – 12 years or MORE to get their green cards.
THE WHY:
Numerical caps on Employment Based green cards.
Processing delays in adjudication of files.
THE EFFECT:
These future Americans are facing perpetual uncertainty and stagnations.
No Career growth.
Spouse cannot work.
American Companies cannot hire the best and the brightest.
Stagnation
Stagnation
Stagnation
THE SOLUTION:
Increase Numerical limits.
Eliminate counting spouses against the quota numbers.
Recapture lost visa numbers.
- ImmigrationVoice.org
I have put the below together ..
------------------------=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=================================================
THE WHAT:
Employment Based Skilled Immigrants have to wait for 7 – 12 years or MORE to get their green cards.
THE WHY:
Numerical caps on Employment Based green cards.
Processing delays in adjudication of files.
THE EFFECT:
These future Americans are facing perpetual uncertainty and stagnations.
No Career growth.
Spouse cannot work.
American Companies cannot hire the best and the brightest.
Stagnation
Stagnation
Stagnation
THE SOLUTION:
Increase Numerical limits.
Eliminate counting spouses against the quota numbers.
Recapture lost visa numbers.
- ImmigrationVoice.org
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shantanup
03-29 07:03 AM
To allot a GC or Immigration is a leanthy process includes several steps so it takes time to pass through all these steps. After validating and checking all the documents the GC is alloted
so the process takes time.
So naive!
so the process takes time.
So naive!
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mirage
03-06 03:10 PM
Just a little update, Called up my Senator's office this morning..Started talking about country Cap issue, the guy knew everything about it, he took notes & promised he will pass it on to the Senator. Here's what I suggested him
1) Lift the Country Cap for Temporary period of time, may be just for 2 years.
2) Limit the Maximum waiting time, say if one applicant is waiting for 5 years than country cap should be exempted and he should be given a preference over a person who�s PD is just 1 year old.
He specifically told me 'your second point is very good, I'll certainly share these with the Senator'...
I urge you guys to contact your senators & Congressmen/Congresswomen
We have a group which is focusing on this issue, if you want to join us here's the link
1) Lift the Country Cap for Temporary period of time, may be just for 2 years.
2) Limit the Maximum waiting time, say if one applicant is waiting for 5 years than country cap should be exempted and he should be given a preference over a person who�s PD is just 1 year old.
He specifically told me 'your second point is very good, I'll certainly share these with the Senator'...
I urge you guys to contact your senators & Congressmen/Congresswomen
We have a group which is focusing on this issue, if you want to join us here's the link
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b_boy
02-22 06:01 PM
well, really I dont have words to express what frustration means, so be it. my PD is Nov 2003 (original Labor) and filed 485 in June 2004 and have 7 EAD cards thus far.
Started to work on EAD since 2005.
This is my 11th year in this country, never tried to do labor substitution always was and is a legal and law abiding since I came to this country on H1, despite changing jobs been as a developer since then - till now.
This GC process got me grey very soon, unsure if I become bald. This is the state of legal immigration in this country, God bless.
Started to work on EAD since 2005.
This is my 11th year in this country, never tried to do labor substitution always was and is a legal and law abiding since I came to this country on H1, despite changing jobs been as a developer since then - till now.
This GC process got me grey very soon, unsure if I become bald. This is the state of legal immigration in this country, God bless.
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mikkisu
06-04 11:18 AM
I don't know if IV is already doing it But the i think it is Good idea to call into Good Syndycates talk shows and let America hear about our Concerns and the Unfairness in the proposed Bill.
ex:- Sean Hannity,Bill Orily..
we should be calling in both the Liberal and conservative talk shows..
ex:- Sean Hannity,Bill Orily..
we should be calling in both the Liberal and conservative talk shows..
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Ushakiran
05-08 05:59 PM
should we add the following content?
EB quota is only a small share compared to overall immigration quota. Per Country cap on family based immigration can still be remained to ensure diversity. However, we request to remove country cap on EB immigration. US employees are only looking for talents to keep competitiveness, no matter the talents is from India, China, or Luxembourg .
Below is what I sent. Maybe we can tweak this letter and send it to all senators and congressmen.
Subject: Discrimination of Indian Immigrants
Dear President Obama,
I wanted to bring to your attention the plight of hundreds of thousands of highly skilled Indian immigrants waiting endlessly for many years in order to obtain a permanent residency in the US. The process of getting a permanent residency is a long, winding, time consuming, financially and emotionally draining experience, with no end at sight. After 5 to 10 years of waiting in line, paying taxes, obeying law, many high skilled workers from India find that permanent residency is only a dangling carrot that they may never get it.
One of the biggest hurdles for high skilled immigrants from India is a country cap that limits applicants from any one country from having more than 7% of the available employment based green cards (140,000 visa numbers per year). This means applicants from countries like Andorra and Luxembourg get the same number of green cards as applicants from India and China. This causes a person from India and China to wait 5 to 10 years in order to get permanent residency while applicants from all other countries have zero wait time. We are here in USA because we wanted to be a part of USA, and not because we came from a certain country. All applicants should be treated equally and country cap only allows discrimination by national origin in the disguise of fairness to all, as US has a lot more high skilled workers from India or China than from Andorra or Luxembourg.
President Obama, we are here to pursue the American Dream and we find hurdles at every level during the immigration process. I request you to kindly remove the discriminatory country cap and provide us relief. This is a small step that can enormously help hundred of thousands of high skilled immigrants and we will be grateful to you for our lifetime.
Thank you President Obama and you are doing a wonderful job!
Sincerely,
Xxxxx xxxxx
EB quota is only a small share compared to overall immigration quota. Per Country cap on family based immigration can still be remained to ensure diversity. However, we request to remove country cap on EB immigration. US employees are only looking for talents to keep competitiveness, no matter the talents is from India, China, or Luxembourg .
Below is what I sent. Maybe we can tweak this letter and send it to all senators and congressmen.
Subject: Discrimination of Indian Immigrants
Dear President Obama,
I wanted to bring to your attention the plight of hundreds of thousands of highly skilled Indian immigrants waiting endlessly for many years in order to obtain a permanent residency in the US. The process of getting a permanent residency is a long, winding, time consuming, financially and emotionally draining experience, with no end at sight. After 5 to 10 years of waiting in line, paying taxes, obeying law, many high skilled workers from India find that permanent residency is only a dangling carrot that they may never get it.
One of the biggest hurdles for high skilled immigrants from India is a country cap that limits applicants from any one country from having more than 7% of the available employment based green cards (140,000 visa numbers per year). This means applicants from countries like Andorra and Luxembourg get the same number of green cards as applicants from India and China. This causes a person from India and China to wait 5 to 10 years in order to get permanent residency while applicants from all other countries have zero wait time. We are here in USA because we wanted to be a part of USA, and not because we came from a certain country. All applicants should be treated equally and country cap only allows discrimination by national origin in the disguise of fairness to all, as US has a lot more high skilled workers from India or China than from Andorra or Luxembourg.
President Obama, we are here to pursue the American Dream and we find hurdles at every level during the immigration process. I request you to kindly remove the discriminatory country cap and provide us relief. This is a small step that can enormously help hundred of thousands of high skilled immigrants and we will be grateful to you for our lifetime.
Thank you President Obama and you are doing a wonderful job!
Sincerely,
Xxxxx xxxxx
caliducas
08-24 09:25 PM
July 3rd filer --> No receipt yet
virald
01-21 03:30 PM
Hello
I dont have access to the certified labor copy , I am just wondering if we need it for AC21 purposes. I am not sure how to get it from my desi employer/ desi lawyer. I have a job offer with a fortune 200 company which is willing to do H1b transfer/extension so I am opting for H1b instead of EAD. I am pretty sure about the job description will satisfy the same/similar test.
Is the job title and job description mentioned on the labor cert? Mine is a pre perm case. Is it good to have copy of labor cert for AC21?
This is the question I have too. I have certified PERM copy with me, but I dont think I have the cover letter (job duties) for the PERM. Using AC21, what duties should be written by the new company? One field I see on ceritifed labor is "Non technical job duties".
Any suggestions?
I dont have access to the certified labor copy , I am just wondering if we need it for AC21 purposes. I am not sure how to get it from my desi employer/ desi lawyer. I have a job offer with a fortune 200 company which is willing to do H1b transfer/extension so I am opting for H1b instead of EAD. I am pretty sure about the job description will satisfy the same/similar test.
Is the job title and job description mentioned on the labor cert? Mine is a pre perm case. Is it good to have copy of labor cert for AC21?
This is the question I have too. I have certified PERM copy with me, but I dont think I have the cover letter (job duties) for the PERM. Using AC21, what duties should be written by the new company? One field I see on ceritifed labor is "Non technical job duties".
Any suggestions?
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